| Broadcasts for Fall of 1909 in goofy |
Movement
Automatic deadline extension due to judge failure if your deadline was too close
Signed - The Judge
Automatic deadline extension due to judge failure if your deadline was too close
Signed - The Judge
Hi folks,
our game is back up, but because we are the goofiest ones on this judge,
of course *WE* *DID* have a move after April 21st. Now it would of course
be easy to enter your old moves manually and process them.
But, aren't we supposed to be goofy? Who gives a damn about EP house rules
etc.? Why not redo the move? I.e. I propose that you have time to rethink
your moves (which already were evaluated in another universe) and have
a new (and probably different) spring result.
However this is just a proposal and I call you to vote upon it. If any-
body objects, I will just force the old result to be repeated and you can
go ahead. You may vote by private email or in public (or not at all, in
which case your vote obviously is in favour of my proposal :-).
Voting deadline is tomorrow, April 27th, at 10.00 EFF judge time.
Unless I receive a NO vote until then, I will simply set the game nowait
and you can do as you please. If I receive a NO vote, I will process
the old moves and we can simulate that nothing has happened to the game
at all.
Robert
vote YES to replay
Automatic deadline extension due to judge failure if your deadline was too close
Signed - The Judge
Okay, everyone...
a/f a** proxy to austria
" b** " " "
" c** " " "
" d** " " "
a/f e** proxy to england
a/f f** proxy to france
a/f g** proxy to germany
" h** " " "
a/f i** proxy to italy
" j** " " "
" k** " " "
" l** " " "
" m** " " "
" n** " " "
" o** " " "
" p** " " "
" q** " " "
a/f r** proxy to russia
" s** " " "
a/f t** proxy to turkey
" u** " " "
" v** " " "
" w** " " "
" x** " " "
" y** " " "
" z** " " "
Our mail server is having problems. Hope that at least this message
gets out. I'll be on a business trip for the next two days. While I
hope that I can do something more than get this message out, I may
not be able to do so.
Robert
Hmmm, I'm not really sure how to proceed now. Russia and France went
CD, and somebody (guess who) jumped right in. I will try to adjust
dedications once the smoke of the judge crash has cleared.
Here's my current point of view:
There will be no move until everybody is back in her place (new
or old :-). Go for it! And remember, we're still voting about replaying
the last turn (now not only with new moves, but even with new players!).
Robert
I'll let you stay in my country as long as you let me control my
units. Deal?
Ok, everybody seems to be on board again (though perhaps at a different
position :-). And I received no complaints about replaying the spring
season (of course goofiness points will be awarded for both!). Therefore
I reset the wait flag so that the move can process as soon as those of
you who did 'set wait' reset their flag or at friday night.
Remember that you do have the chance to move different!
Your happy GM
Robert (whose mail server seems ok again)
(scene: The admiral of the fleet is gazing across the sea towards a glorious
sunset. An ensign stands by his side.)
Ensign: Sir. I know you are distraught over the loss of your country...
Admiral: (grunt)
Ensign: And I know you are upset about the loss of your supply centers...
Admiral: (louder grunt)
Ensign: And the loss of those seven magnificent armies ...
Admiral: (scowls)
Ensign: But I really think that ... oh my god! land ahead! Admiral, do
something! Quickly!
Admiral: (chuckles as his ship grinds it's way onto a sandy beach)
*** TIME WARP *** TIME WARP *** TIME WARP *** TIME WARP *** TIME WARP ***
(replay of the scene above)
Admiral: (scowls)
Ensign: But I really think that we should do something active about it,
not just sail around in circles. Sir.
Admiral: And just what makes you think we are sailing around in circles,
my young whipper-snapper? I've set our course due west. West,
mind you. Far away from that forsaken land-locked city that
was suppose to be my capital. West, mind you. Back home.
Ensign: But sir, that is ...
Admiral: (scowl) Yes! Are you questioning my judgement?
Ensign: (quickly) No sir!
(weeks pass by, the ship sails up a long windy river to a large city. The
ensign and admiral are talking again)
Ensign: Ah, sir?
Admiral: (takes a puff on a pipe) Yes?
Ensign: Excuse me for mentioning it, but it doesn't seem like we are in
Rome.
Admiral: Perhaps not. Well, never mind. This looks like a good place to
drop the anchor anyway. After all, I've always liked "Paris in
the springtime".
(the audience groans at this feeble stab at humor)
Goofy points for the time warp turn:
E: 0 Whatcha up to?
F: 2 The convoy was cute. Not to mention giving up your country for
a more deserving person :-)
G: 1 Sympathy vote, as usual.
I: 1 Ok, the occupying of all 7 capitals is clever. Not as clever as
a "head butt" IMHO, but good. I doubt if you'll make it though.
R: 1 Just because.
T: 2 Letting Italy do your moves? Dangerous.
Movement
My Votes:
Austria: 3 pts for the suicide
England: 2 pts for the convoyed bounce
Russia: 1 pt for evacuating Berlin
Turkey: 1 pt for scrambling to get out of Italy's way, and failing
Bev Rosre
Good Lord, is this the best people could do with a second chance? If you
didn't change your orders at all, you didn't deserve ANY gp, but those who
only shifted one order hardly improved their goofiness...
Italy: I was going to try to run in circles in Mar-Bur-Gas-Mar, but I don't
think I can do this without getting in your way--but I'll leave Mar to you if
you'll tell me what is so goofy about Wales??
Russia: Sorry, I really *didn't* expect you to repeat yourself. Do you intend
to keep trying Nwg?
France: Nice dance. Will you still welcome the lads from Liverpool, or has
that grown too stale?
--The Silly English K-nnnn-ighit!
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 1994 14:18:32 -0400
From: Diplomacy Adjudicator
This Diplomacy Adjudicator sponsored by
the Electronic Frontier Foundation.
Any unmoderated games on this judge will be removed.
Broadcast message from England in goofy:
Good Lord, is this the best people could do with a second chance? If you
didn't change your orders at all, you didn't deserve ANY gp, but those who
only shifted one order hardly improved their goofiness...
Excuse me for having a life outside Diplomacy. I just did not log in
for four days.
Italy: I was going to try to run in circles in Mar-Bur-Gas-Mar, but I don'{ think I can do this without getting in your way--but I'll leave Mar
to you if
you'll tell me what is so goofy about Wales??
I'm invading London. Solo attack. BANZAI!
--The Silly English K-nnnn-ighit!
p.s. Goofy voting stands as earlier submitted for this move.
Derffie
For those of you suffering from the dedication penalty caused by the
recent judge crash: I have informed David Kovar about the players in-
volved and he will adjust your dedication accordingly.
Robert
Here are the GM's goofy points for the various spring 1909 seasons:
(1) A1, E-, F2, G1, I2, R-, T1
Austria: 1 point for leaving Europe forever
England: Your only remaining intent seem to be SC.
France: The mass support for Italy's move into Bur made me laugh.
Germany: Nice guessed support for the Italians.
Italy: Nice expansionistic attitude.
Russia: Infamous 8th point for you
Turkey: How goofy to proxy F Bla to Italy!
(2) A1, E2, F-, G1, I1, R1, T1
Austria: Did you just do a perfect guess or am I missing something?
England: Yeah, at least one person who took advantage of the replay!
I admire your Belgium bounce.
France: No goofiness involved yet.
Germany: This time you supported Italy via proxy. I liked it.
Italy: Now time becomes short to get into Ankara and Paris...
Russia: 1 point since the evil English didn't let you into Nwg
Turkey: You weren't very innovative with regards to your moves. But
you tried to give Italy what he wanted.
I still need votes about spring(1) from the following players: AEIGRT
I still need votes about spring(2) from the following players: AFIGRT
No other votes have been received yet. If you sent some, please repeat.
You may vote for both versions seperately or not, as you please. Just
indicate if you want the same vote applied to both versions.
Robert
Well, I DID vote for the first move before...can't remember exactly
what it was, but it was something like the following (which can serve
as my vote)
A 1 E 0 F 2 G 1 I - R 1 T 2
This will also serve as my vote for the second spring move.
Russia squeeks (again):
a:2 e:2 t:1 i:1 g:1 (*2)
I agree with England, doing the same moves in a time warp is *not* goofy.
Therefore:
A: 3
E: 3
G: 0
I: 0
R: 1 (had to give it someone)
T: 0
And to the moderator: -3 for saying my moves weren't goofy. At least they
were original!
And to England, no the boys from Liverpool aren't welcome. But the ones
from London are! I'll lend you my fleet if you lend me yours.
Broadcast message from France in goofy:
I agree with England, doing the same moves in a time warp is *not* goofy.
Therefore:
A: 3
E: 3
G: 0
I: 0
R: 1 (had to give it someone)
T: 0
And to the moderator: -3 for saying my moves weren't goofy. At least they
were original!
To reiterate: the entire rollback, discussion of whether there
should be a timewarp, and processing of the timewarp took place while
I was AFK.
Basically, you are penalizing me for not logging in.
Just thought I'd make it clear.
Guy playing Italy
> Basically, you are penalizing me for not logging in.
>
> Just thought I'd make it clear.
> Guy playing Italy
Hum. Last time I was away from my mail system for 4 days (I have a
life outside Dippy also, you know), *someone* took my country away
from me. Just thought I'd make that clear. But since you whined, I'll
do:
A: 3
E: 3
G: 0
I: 1 (had to give it someone)
R: 0
T: 0
Person playing France
Goofy votes for both Springs:
A: 2
E: 3
F: 2
G: 0
I: 0
R: 0
I don't know if the Italian knew (and I know nobody else could have), but
after I proxied the units to him, _I_ entered the moves to ensure his
capture of the capitals!! Of course, he could have entered them himself,
but I know I did. A nice function of proxy is that you can enter orders
for proxied units and the guy who you proxied the unit to wouldn't know
that you did. Oh, well, I thought it was goofy.
McCrae
Hmm...forgot who was playing France! :)
Sorry for whining.
Turkey: You cannot proxy a force, and then enter its order, without
cancelling the proxy.
> And to England, no the boys from Liverpool aren't welcome. But the
> ones from London are! I'll lend you my fleet if you lend me yours.
Deal. Eng is yours. Make way for the British Invasion!
Thing Playing England
(Thengland?)
>>> Diplomacy game goofy is waiting for Russia's orders.
I'm waiting... heh, heh, heh
The mad switcheroo.
Goofy votes for Austria, Spring 1909:
Version 1
T 3
F 3
R 1
Version 2
E 3
F 2
T 1
R 1
Have your boys enjoyed their summer vacation? It's time for them to
go home.
Oh, our poor moderator. Figuring out goofy points when people keep
changing countries and when the judge replays moves. I believe the
following is illegal:
Goofy votes for Austria, Spring 1909:
Version 1
T 3
F 3
R 1
Since at the time of version 1, Austria was still France and thus a vote
for France during version 1 would be a vote for oneself which is, of course,
illegal.
Or something like that.
>Oh, our poor moderator. Figuring out goofy points when people keep
>changing countries and when the judge replays moves. I believe the
>following is illegal:
>
> Goofy votes for Austria, Spring 1909:
>
> Version 1
> T 3
> F 3
> R 1
>
>Since at the time of version 1, Austria was still France and thus a vote
>for France during version 1 would be a vote for oneself which is, of course,
>illegal.
>
>Or something like that.
Dear whoever-you-are:
Please leave the moderator's job to the moderator. I voted as
Austria, for France. I may be the former France. Then again, I may
not. Since this game is gunboat you have no idea which is the case.
>>> Dear whoever-you-are:
>>> Please leave the moderator's job to the moderator. I voted as
>>> Austria, for France. I may be the former France. Then again, I may
>>> not. Since this game is gunboat you have no idea which is the case.
Touchy, are we not? Perhaps the problem of only having one, soon to be
zero, fleets to play around with? Hum?
>Touchy, are we not? Perhaps the problem of only having one, soon to be
>zero, fleets to play around with? Hum?
I merely wish to see how the moderator will interpret and enforce the
rules of his own game. As for having fleets to play with, I see many
others on the board. I can play with all of them.
I, for one, cannot track who is playing what country. You could all still be
in your original powers for all I know, and the press fluff is just a decoy.
I'd be tempted to jump from an eight-dot power to a one-dot power, on the
theory that this is ultimate goofiness, but I'm not online often enough to
grab a vacant country and I'm betting nobody would reward the move.
I know *I* haven't to date!
--The Silly English K-nnnn-ighit!
Adjustments
To clarify: It is illegal to assign points to yourself. Since I do know
who plays which nation in which turn, I will take care that nobody
assigns a vote to himself. You should rely on that.
Bye,
Robert
Goofy points from your GM for fall 1909:
A1, E1, F1, G1, I1, R2, T0
Austria: Goodbye to somebody who wasn't interested in spending the
winter in Spain himself. One last charity point for you.
England: It's convoy time, isn't it? Pretty useless orders which yet
hold onto your position. Admirable.
France: It might have been played already, but A Par supporting itself
again looked goofy to me.
Germany: Cruising out again looks nice.
Italy: Somebody should stop you or you will be at 18 SC next winter :-)
Otherwise not very surprising.
Russia: Finally you make it into Aeg and Nwg! But -alas- maybe too late.
2 points for your long-term goal.
Turkey: I consider you the bad girl this time, not letting Russia back
home. Your other moves earned you a point, but the one into War
takes that point away again.
Remember that for the last two moves next year you cannot assign points
to Austria, and the Austrian player can only assign 3 points per move (of
course she can assign 7 points for fall 1909).
Robert