| Press for Spring of 1911 in ghodstoo |
Movement
Private message from France to Germany:
Let's set up the line and end this thing. I have no adventures planned, so
I guess holding in Berlin is as good as anything. My orders are in.
I'll be out of town all of next week. Shouldn't be a problem or even delay
a turn, but I'll alert the Master.
Private message from England to Germany:
>Your call. What should my A Ber do?
Hold, as far as I'm concerned. If John has some expedition in mind, he'll
have to explain.
>I appreciate your offer, Jamie. At this point, however, all I'm looking
>for is continued supports and a set draw once Italy is gone.
Yeah. Maybe I'll mention that to Hohn. Nah, I'll wait.
-GKJ
Private message from Germany to Turkey:
>No offense, but, well, it doesn't look like you're long for this
>world.
Quite likely.
>If you're going to go down, why not play spoiler and try to help me
>win? I'd really, really appreciate it. :)
Nice try, Hohn, but, even if I am on my way out, there's no way I'd
intentionally hand you (or anybody else) a solo. You'll have to work that
one on your own...
-Pitt
Private message from Germany to France:
>The position is now pretty clear. If our alliance holds, we have it locked
>up, and we'll have a four way draw. If anybody defects, Hohn wins. By
>making his move now, Hohn has made us all 100% dependent on each other.
>
>Pitt and I each have our own power over both Berlin and Stp, either one of
>which is enough to give Turkey the win. I have no illusions about Pitt's
>willingness to exercise that power, and I hope no one else has any about me.
My perspective is the same as that expressed by Jamie above.
>As for me, I will most assuredly order my two fleets to support Pitt's two
>to hold, forevermore.
>
>My F Swe is free to do anything useful, but it has nothing useful to do. (I
>guess putting it in GoB is the sensible thing, but if Pitt wants me to I'll
>move it to Denmark.)
Your call. What should my A Ber do?
>Pitt, within the range of non-suicidal moves, I'll do anything you want me
>to do, since you are the one of us most likely (and reasonably) to have
>qualms about his own security. Tell me what position you'd like to see, or
>where you want me to go.
I appreciate your offer, Jamie. At this point, however, all I'm looking
for is continued supports and a set draw once Italy is gone.
-Pitt
Private message from Turkey to France:
John,
I take it from your silence that you're not interested in trying to
twiddle the board for a two-way. If so, I figure you guys can axe
Pitt while I finish off Cal this year, and then we can just call it a
three-way. Sound reasonable?
Hohn
Private message from England to France:
You aren't going to answer my earlier note, huh?
Ok. But, do you want me to support Pru-Ber, or shall I just order Bal S Ber?
GKJ
Private message from Master to England:
> Message from [email protected] as England to Master in 'ghodstoo':
>
> Has John left for the week???
>
I'm not trying to be difficult here, but you received the same message
that I saw. I don't really feel at liberty to reveal anything else
regarding John's availability.
> So I gather from a recent message.
>
> I am afraid I was expecting some reply from him which I haven't received.
>
Yes, I saw your messages. John asked the turn to go through on
deadline and then to request a delay if necessary only after that.
> I guess I want a postponement until some reasonably short time after he
> returns. I hate to ask, but I don't see what else I can do.
>
Hmmm, this one is difficult. What you are asking me is as follows:
1) Player X gets orders in and leaves town.
2) Player Y wants more out of Player X and requests a delay until
Player X returns.
3) Player Z doesn't know it, but really doesn't want Player X and
Player Y to agree on what Player Y wants.
4) GM is asked to announce a delay and reasonably explain what
it is for.
> (And I most certainly do not want it generally known that it's me waiting
> for John's reply!)
>
> Jamie
>
No kidding. I want to think about this for a few minutes. But given
my dilemma, what precisely would you have me do?
Jim
Private message from Master to England:
Jamie,
OK, you're right, but to be explicit, I would have to order the delay
until October 7. Is that a short delay?
I am willing to be fairly circumspect about who requested it, but
there are only so many people in the game.
So, here it is: if you ask me for the delay, I will grant it. The
new deadline would be October 7. I would not say who requested
it or why.
Jim
Private message from England to Master:
>I'm not trying to be difficult here, but you received the same message
>that I saw. I don't really feel at liberty to reveal anything else
>regarding John's availability.
Ok.
>Hmmm, this one is difficult. What you are asking me is as follows:
>
>1) Player X gets orders in and leaves town.
>
>2) Player Y wants more out of Player X and requests a delay until
>Player X returns.
>
>3) Player Z doesn't know it, but really doesn't want Player X and
>Player Y to agree on what Player Y wants.
>
>4) GM is asked to announce a delay and reasonably explain what
>it is for.
Yes, that's right. Except I'm not sure about (4). I am not requesting that
you reasonably explain any delay, am I? (I did ask you whether John had
requested one, but if that's not supposed to be public info, fine, no
problem.)
>No kidding. I want to think about this for a few minutes. But given
>my dilemma, what precisely would you have me do?
Announce that there will be a short postponement, but that you won't say
who requested it. Isn't that your standard practice in any case? I don't
see why you'd have to say any more than that.
Jamie
Private message from England to Master:
I hereby request a deadline extension.
Jamie
Private message from Master to Turkey:
I have a request to extend the deadline until next Tuesday.
Thanks for your patience.
Jim
Private message from Master to France:
John, the request to extend this deadlie was not yours.
Jim
Private message from England to Master:
Has John left for the week???
So I gather from a recent message.
I am afraid I was expecting some reply from him which I haven't received.
I guess I want a postponement until some reasonably short time after he
returns. I hate to ask, but I don't see what else I can do.
(And I most certainly do not want it generally known that it's me waiting
for John's reply!)
Jamie
Private message from France to Master:
I will be out of town from tomorrow, Monday morning, until the following
Monday night. It's possible this won't require a delay, since my orders
are in. But if another deadline arises before Tuesday evening, I would
need an extension.
Thanks,
John
>
>[email protected] as Master set the deadline
>for game 'ghodstoo' to Tue Oct 7 1997 23:30:00 EST.
>Grace period deadline advanced to Tue Nov 18 1997 14:30:00 EST.
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> Broadcast message from [email protected] as Observer in 'ghodstoo':
>
> >
> >[email protected] as Master set the deadline
> >for game 'ghodstoo' to Tue Oct 7 1997 23:30:00 EST.
> >Grace period deadline advanced to Tue Nov 18 1997 14:30:00 EST.
>
> Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!
>
And to think you missed the earthshattering note that I sent ONLY
to efgit.... we'll wake you up when the next turn processes!
Jim
Private message from England to France:
John,
I'm sorry, I could not submit orders without knowing what the deal is
around Berlin. If you're ordering Pru-Ber and I don't give you support, it
might be really bad; and if I do give the order and you don't attack, that
would also be really bad. In either case, Pitt would likely try to throw
the game, and would likely succeed. (You might support it in yourself from
Kiel, and that might work, but I thought I'd better wait and be sure.)
So I'm the one who asked for the postponement. I'll submit my orders as
soon as I get the word from you.
In case you somehow never got the message in which I explained my suggested
plan, in brief it's this.
I can keep Pitt from getting Stp forever, as long as I can get Swe-Fin this
season (and if Pitt plans to bounce me (Stp-Fin) then Hohn will probably
win no matter what we do). If you take Berlin, we can shore up the German
part of the stalemate line. And you can secure the Riviera part by moving
Mar-Gas, and Pie-Mar with support from Burg.
If you want to keep Pitt in the draw, it's ok with me.
Let me know,
Gentle King Jamie
By the way the following was received in regard to DipCon XXXI. I will be
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change that to give the hobby a boost, so it is up to you guys.
Edi
>
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Private message from England to Master:
This is getting sticky, I've heard nothing from John. I suppose he isn't
back yet, though of course I can't be sure.
-Jamie
Private message from Master to England:
> Message from [email protected] as England to Master in 'ghodstoo':
>
> This is getting sticky, I've heard nothing from John. I suppose he isn't
> back yet, though of course I can't be sure.
>
> -Jamie
>
Hi Jamie,
You know there is nothing I can say here except to say that you have
given me no legitimate reason to delay the game any later than tonight.
ANYTHING else that I say could give you private information that you
may not obtain from me.
Have fun!
Jim
Private message from Master to Turkey:
Hi Hohn,
I thought I would be proactive and remind you that the deadline is
tonight (after being delayed at the request of England). As of
a few minutes ago, your orders were not in.
Jim
Private message from England to Master:
Whew.
:-)
-Jamie
Private message from France to Turkey:
Sorry I did not get back to you earlier. I was out of town all week. I
think the most desirable outcome is a 3-way including you, me and England.
Private message from France to England:
I am back. I don't recall receiving your message on how to shore up the
stalemate line while taking Pitt out. It's a good thing you asked for the
delay. Turkey has suggested we finish off Germany while he takes out
Italy, then declare a 3-way. I'm for it. I will look over your suggested
orders this afternoon and get back to you.
Private message from England to France:
> I'm for it. I will look over your suggested
>orders this afternoon and get back to you.
Ok, good.
Don't cut it too close, I don't check in really late at night. I will check
at around 8pm EDT. If I don't have anything from you, I will try to check
in again later than that.
My moves are in. If I'm late, it could make Pitt really, really suspicious.
I'd just ordered F Bal S A Pru H, but I'll change that now to F Bal S A
Pru-Ber.
I feel confident that you'll find my plan is in good order. Just don't
forget to bring that A Pie back to Mar, with Mar-Gas. Otherwise you will
(or might well) have a little hole in the Fall.
This move should essentially end the game.
GKJ
Private message from England to France:
Hello?
Ok, I'll check again in an hour or so if I can manage it.
Remember, I have ordered F Bal S A Pru-Ber.
-GKJ
Private message from Master to England:
And he sweats, and sweats, and......
> Message from [email protected] as England to France in 'ghodstoo':
>
> Hello?
>
> Ok, I'll check again in an hour or so if I can manage it.
>
> Remember, I have ordered F Bal S A Pru-Ber.
>
> -GKJ
>
Well, we shall see, won't we?
Sorry, can't resist.
Jim
Private message from England to Master:
Hey, that's ON the record now, Burgess! Unexpungeable! Taunting one's
players, what an irredeemable vice.
Gentle King Jamie
Private message from Master to England:
> Message from [email protected] as England to Master in 'ghodstoo':
>
> Hey, that's ON the record now, Burgess! Unexpungeable! Taunting one's
> players, what an irredeemable vice.
>
> Gentle King Jamie
>
May I presume that your "mood" has improved? But, yes, I am a vice
ridden GM animal....
Jim
Private message from Master to Turkey:
Comments on the likely outcome of the game from everyone's perspective
would appear to be a good request to make at this point.
What's next?
Jim
Private message from England to Germany:
Dearest Pitt,
Let's just say that there's no need to waste your breath or fingers with
any begging.
Gentle King Jamie
Private message from England to Turkey:
:-) :-) :-) :-) :-)
It's been a pleasure, gentlemen.
Gentle King Jamie
Private message from Germany to England:
>England: Fleet Norway SUPPORT German Army St Petersburg.
I thank you.
>France: Army Prussia -> Berlin.
>France: Army Kiel SUPPORT Army Prussia -> Berlin.
I believe France deserves to be chastised. Can we do so without giving
Turkey a solo? And, are you inclined to do so? It's readily apparent that
you can eliminate me if you chose. I can only hope that you would rather
keep me alive in order to a) say thanks for me not trying to throw the game
to Turkey by letting him take STP, b) flip France the bird, and c) show to
one and all what a generous and magnanimous person you really are.
No, really!
(That's as much as I'm willing to beg. I hope it's sufficient...;-)
-Pitt