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Message from Russia to Austria and Germany in
'ruffians':
>Message from [email protected] as Austria to Russia and Germany in
>'ruffians':
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>Well, that went VERY well. Christian commiting extra resources to the
>north
>is an unexpected bonus.
I'm afraid I have to beg to differ. I suppose it's a point-of-view thing...
>Cal,
>
>Sev is a lock now -- Moscow moves in with Ukraine and Rum supporting.
>Whichever unit he pulls, he loses. Next year Bulgaria is secure, and I can
>support myself into the Aegean, and it's goodby constantinople.
Why do you figure Moscow? I'd say use Ukr because Christian is NOT going to
move Stp anywhere this season.
Cal --
>same supports for one more season?
Yes, please. d;-})
Cal
Message from Germany to Austria and Russia in 'ruffians':
Guys;
Ignore any qualms or doubts that I expressed earlier; even if I
lose Ber this turn, I'll
pick up at least Den and Mun and have that second Germany fleet
constructed in the
yards at Kiel. Sure thing.
Chris, please confirm that you'll be bouncing your A Ruh with my A
Mun over Kiel.
If I get burned by England wandering into Kiel, my fleet build has to be
made in a less
convenient spot (Ber).
I was quite surprised with the English moves to Nwg (overkill in
the north!) and to
Baltic (double overkill). He must have wanted StP VERY badly!
The French move to Wms was also a puzzler; why would he risk losing
his only dot,
and why would he do it against the very guy that he just dumped two dots
to? Ol' John
must hate everybody, here.
Paul
Message from Austria to Russia and Germany in
'ruffians':
Gents,
I will indeed be bouncing in Kiel. As to the StPete/Sev question, I think
we should take the sure thing, which is Sev. Moscow -> Sev, Supported by
Ukr and Rum cannot fail. Any attack on StPete may fail, and we cannot
afford that. Livonia covers Moscow.
So, go for Sweden, (I think Baltic will be covering which will be fine). I
will move Ruhr -> Kiel.
Cal? I know you'd rather move from Ukraine, but all it would take is
christian doing the unexpected once to foil this little enterprise.
All the best!
Chris
Message from Austria to Turkey in 'ruffians':
Cyrille,
Isn't it a little tacky to complain that noone will diplome with you, and
then not reply to someone who does?
Chris
Broadcast message from England in
'ruffians':
I vote for a draw including T, R and A.
/Christian
Message from England to Germany in
'ruffians':
Paul, Paul,
I have only built fleets since the start of this game. An England with one
army is NO threat to Germany. If you in fact wanted me to build Armies
(wich it seems like you did) why didn't you just ask me??
You are saying: " I just didn't feel comfortable with your being draped all
over me while I stalled Austria until your cavalry arrived."
Now you are stalling me while Austria is finishing R and T. What do you
think will happen after that? In a way this whole plan could have been a
plan of MINE, as I will eventually benefit from your fall to Austria. The
only problem is that you are giving A a solo as he will get 18 before you
choose to trust me again.
There are now two ways this can end:
1) A kills R-T-I.He then attacks you and I help you survive (as I will
surely have units left by the time A has finished R-T-I). This gives us a
three-way draw.
2) A kills R-T-I.He then attacks you and I DO NOT help you survive. Austria
gets 18 and only Chris wins (as always! :))
Now the question for me would be: Will I help you later if you are in fact
attacking me NOW?
As an experienced Dip-player my answer would be - "Yes!, I do not want
Chris to get a solo, no matter what."
As an unexperienced Dip-player my answer would be - "No way I help that
lying pig!"
Now you go figure out wich answer I will choose later in this game!
Finally, if you think you need to have some of my sc:s, maybe we can agree
on it? Say you get Denmark+Sweden and then we work together. If you early
in this end-game help Chris through the Iberia Stalemate we canot even stop
him if we choose to work together later in the game. Better we agree for
you to have some of my sc:s and then start to work together again, if
greedy is your moode of the day.
BTW, are you sure about what Austrian A Ruhr are doing? :)
/Christian
Message from England to Austria in
'ruffians':
Chris,
Two things:
1) Note that I did F Spa Hold, not F Spa S MAO-WME.
2) Why were you upset about me moving there anyway? :)
/Chris
Broadcast message from Austria in 'ruffians':
Christian --
Do you mean a E/T/R/A draw? I think Paul might have something to say about
that!
Chris
Broadcast message from Observer in 'ruffians':
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> Broadcast message from [email protected] as Austria in 'ruffians':
>
>
> Christian --
>
> Do you mean a E/T/R/A draw? I think Paul might have something to say about
> that!
>
> Chris
>
Chris!
Now you aren't going to torpedo my prediction so quickly are you???
My opinion is that Christian was entertaining us with his prediction
that all of the Western powers would be overwhelmed and that a TRA
draw would be the outcome. Now, I must admit, that was NOT one of
the draw results I was pondering. BUT, Chris, YOU are proposing
a FOUR way??? That is one country too many, hmmmm which one could
we take out..... why don't we work alphabetically??? Or perhaps
the "Women's Liberation" draw???
Yes, some interesting play left in this game, very interesting....
Jim
Broadcast message from Russia in 'ruffians':
>Broadcast message from [email protected] as Observer in 'ruffians':
>
>Now you aren't going to torpedo my prediction so quickly are you???
>
>My opinion is that Christian was entertaining us with his prediction
>that all of the Western powers would be overwhelmed and that a TRA
>draw would be the outcome. Now, I must admit, that was NOT one of
>the draw results I was pondering. BUT, Chris, YOU are proposing
>a FOUR way??? That is one country too many, hmmmm which one could
>we take out..... why don't we work alphabetically??? Or perhaps
>the "Women's Liberation" draw???
>
>Yes, some interesting play left in this game, very interesting....
Geez, don't you guys know sarcasm when you hear it? <G>
Cal
Broadcast message from Observer in 'ruffians':
Oh certainly, Cal, ***I*** know sarcasm. If anything, I tend to
be TOO sarcastic.
Never mind, back to your regularly scheduled program.... and that's
enough of any talk of ending this game prematurely....
Schoolmarm Jim-Bob
>
> Broadcast message from [email protected] as Russia in 'ruffians':
>
> >Broadcast message from [email protected] as Observer in 'ruffians':
> >
> >Now you aren't going to torpedo my prediction so quickly are you???
> >
> >My opinion is that Christian was entertaining us with his prediction
> >that all of the Western powers would be overwhelmed and that a TRA
> >draw would be the outcome. Now, I must admit, that was NOT one of
> >the draw results I was pondering. BUT, Chris, YOU are proposing
> >a FOUR way??? That is one country too many, hmmmm which one could
> >we take out..... why don't we work alphabetically??? Or perhaps
> >the "Women's Liberation" draw???
> >
> >Yes, some interesting play left in this game, very interesting....
>
> Geez, don't you guys know sarcasm when you hear it? <G>
>
> Cal
>
Message from Germany to England in 'ruffians':
>
> Paul, Paul,
>
> I have only built fleets since the start of this game. An England with one
> army is NO threat to Germany.
No threat to Berlin, Kiel, Holland, Belgium, Brest or Marseilles? Really?
>
>
> Finally, if you think you need to have some of my sc:s, maybe we can agree
> on it? Say you get Denmark+Sweden and then we work together. If you early
> in this end-game help Chris through the Iberia Stalemate we canot even stop
> him if we choose to work together later in the game. Better we agree for
> you to have some of my sc:s and then start to work together again, if
> greedy is your moode of the day.
Are you saying that you're willing to buy me back just to stop Austria? Hmm.
I'd
be a fool to just turn down an offer like that. But I have to wonder. Why
weren't
you more worried about Austrian advances before I changed sides? You certainly
were casual in your attitude towards rounding Iberia and coming after Italian
dots
(whoever was owning them).
So you are offering Swe/Den if I lay off Iberia, build only armies, and
work
against Austria again?
>
>
> BTW, are you sure about what Austrian A Ruhr are doing? :)
After Chris promised to vacate Mun, I suggested that he go there; I suspected
that
you might have supported yourself to Nth or have sent a fleet to Eng, and I
thought
that I might need to bounce over Hol or have a support for Bel.
>
> Paul
Broadcast message from Germany in 'ruffians':
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> Broadcast message from [email protected] as England in
> 'ruffians':
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> I vote for a draw including T, R and A.
>
> /Christian
I vote "NO" to your proposal, for obvious reasons. --Paul
Message from Germany to Austria and Russia in 'ruffians':
>
> Message from [email protected] as Austria to Russia and Germany in
> 'ruffians':
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> Gents,
>
> I will indeed be bouncing in Kiel. As to the StPete/Sev question, I think
> we should take the sure thing, which is Sev. Moscow -> Sev, Supported by
> Ukr and Rum cannot fail. Any attack on StPete may fail, and we cannot
> afford that. Livonia covers Moscow.
>
> So, go for Sweden, (I think Baltic will be covering which will be fine). I
> will move Ruhr -> Kiel.
>
> Cal? I know you'd rather move from Ukraine, but all it would take is
> christian doing the unexpected once to foil this little enterprise.
Paul here. Cal can do as he pleases, of course; my only hope is that England
won't
count on his flexibility, and will support his A StP.... Christian certainly
wanted it
badly enough.
Broadcast message from Germany in 'ruffians':
Boy, EVERYBODY's on line tonight (save F/T/I?): lotsa action now that
the Xfiles are over....
Paul
Broadcast message from Italy in 'ruffians':
No comment. :-)
The Pope
Broadcast message from Master in 'ruffians':
> Broadcast message from [email protected] as Italy in 'ruffians':
>
> No comment. :-)
>
> The Pope
Looks like the Pope is busy with his plans for the mass of pilgrims
visiting the Vatican next year. Bad luck for me - I wanted to visit
Rome next Spring before my contract expires in July. What do you guys
think, should I go anyway, just to see all the pilgrims?
I return you to your game.
Rick
p.s. This game is DIAS. I don't remember if it started that way on
FROG. Normally I make Gunboat games DIAS and others NoDIAS. Let's
just say it was supposed to be DIAS all along (unless somebody
remembers differently?)
Broadcast message from Italy in 'ruffians':
> Looks like the Pope is busy with his plans for the mass of pilgrims
> visiting the Vatican next year. Bad luck for me - I wanted to visit
> Rome next Spring before my contract expires in July. What do you guys
> think, should I go anyway, just to see all the pilgrims?
Sorry, Rome and the Vatican is closed for vacation. :-)
The Pope
Broadcast message from Austria in 'ruffians':
<<Sorry, Rome and the Vatican is closed for vacation. :-)
The Pope>>
However, it will soon be open, under new management! ;)
The Arch-Pope
Broadcast message from Turkey in 'ruffians':
I vote YES for any draw
press to a
Chris, you told me twice that you only want to play with Russia.
So, I do not answer just to not waste time, and to not cause you to waste
time. It's your option, what can I say. The one I should have trust is
Italy, but I realized it too late, especially cause Italy is Turkey's usual
most mortal enemy. You won't be long to eliminate me, with Germany fighting
also England, Christian is quite alone.
Good luck,
Cyrille.
Broadcast message from Russia in 'ruffians':
>Broadcast message from [email protected] as Turkey in 'ruffians':
>
>I vote YES for any draw
>press to a
>Chris, you told me twice that you only want to play with Russia.
>So, I do not answer just to not waste time, and to not cause you to waste
>time. It's your option, what can I say. The one I should have trust is
>Italy, but I realized it too late, especially cause Italy is Turkey's usual
>most mortal enemy. You won't be long to eliminate me, with Germany fighting
>also England, Christian is quite alone.
Hey, now THERE'S an analysis I LIKE! d;-})
Cal
Message from Turkey to France in 'ruffians':
>Message from [email protected] as France to Turkey in 'ruffians':
>
>Sultan
>In re the Italian's comments below:
>
> > This might just well be my last year in this game.
> > But if any of you should be in position by the fall, I would be glad to
>try
> > to help you to one of Austrias centers.
>
>
>it seems to me that we should be working *with* Austria to ensure that E/G
>cannot get effectively past the stalemate line. If not, then I fear we will
>weaken Austria too much and then in the end the Englishman will stab the
>German for a solo. Better a 4way than a English solo, and if we have a
>united front then England's only other choice is to attack Germany now.
I don't think England is a threat anymore, cause Germany is clearly against
him now. Th threat is more an Austrian win, don't you think?:-)
Message from Turkey to England in 'ruffians':
Christian, would you cut the support in Mos? I know there is a risk, but
Russia will probably force Sev, and after, you would never be able to
continue. I count on your support. I wait for your reply to send my orders,
supporting or attacking something foolish.
All the best,
Cyrille.
Message from Italy to Turkey in 'ruffians':
Do you want me to support you to Nap?
The Pope
Message from England to Turkey in
'ruffians':
Salut Cyrille!
I cannot risk losing StP as I have lost Denmark to Germany. I will however
support you Sev-Mos.'
O�, en Francais: je vais soutenir (?) A Odessa-Moscou :)
/Christian
Broadcast message from Austria in 'ruffians':
Sorry, sorry, sorry
Chris
Message from Italy to Turkey in 'ruffians':
Well, I am supporting F Ion - Nap...
The Pope
Message from Turkey to Italy in 'ruffians':
>Message from [email protected] as Italy to Turkey in 'ruffians':
>
>Well, I am supporting F Ion - Nap...
>
>The Pope
Sorry, the delay is really too short. I thought I had time before it.
Thanks, but now that England fights Germany, I'm afraid nothing should stop
Austria.
Message from Turkey to England in 'ruffians':
Christian, why don't you want to move StP-Mos. Russia will play Liv - StP,
and Ukr - Sev, supported by Mos and Rum, or the opposite. This is your only
chance to go beyond StP, and you can only lose it, not really too bad.
Anyway, you are sure to be in the draw if there is one, so why don't you
take your chance, by helping me to keep Sev?
It's almost impossible that he attacked StP, while I own Sev. If you are
really paranoid about it, we can both attack Mos, while I also attack Bla -
Rum. He'll then succeed only with Ukr S Rum - Sev.
Do you agree with the fact that one thing is sure : Moscow will only give a
support, not attack, while we are in Sev and StP.
I wait for your reply to send my orders.
All the best,
Cyrille.
Message from Italy to Turkey in 'ruffians':
> Sorry, the delay is really too short. I thought I had time before it.
Eh? I have asked you several times before this.
> Thanks, but now that England fights Germany, I'm afraid nothing should stop
> Austria.
I know, but why make it easy for him?
The Pope
Message from England to Turkey in
'ruffians':
Cyrille,
Ok, I will move StP-Mos if you move Sev-Mos and Bla-Rum.
I understand that this should be the best move at the moment, regarding
long-time tactics. I bow to your superior thinking...:)
/Christian
Retreats
Message from Austria to Russia in 'ruffians':
Cal -- I can't believe it! Christian moved! ACH! Well, at least we
finally have taken Cyrille out of it. No matter what he disbands, and I am
guessing A Armenia, we can now take him down. My guess is he will either
retreat to the Tyhr. sea, and try to help Christian, or the Emed and try to
hold us off longer.
The proof of Pauls good intentions will be in his builds, of course. Two
armies and you and I have a whole PASSEL of trouble on our hands, as
Christian is in the Med now, and will be hell to kick out.
Just a look ahead, but if Cyrile does retreat to Emed, I will probably need
to rotate a fleet into bulgaria, so we should think about how to make that
work for us.
Have a good weekend, let me know what you're thinking!
Best,
Chris
Message from Austria to Germany in 'ruffians':
Paul,
Well, that went quite well. Christian can't be happy about two new fleets
in his waters, even if he is in the Gulf of Lyon. I will be fairly busy
this weekend, but lets plan some stuff on monday, ok?
All the best,
Chris
Broadcast message from Italy in 'ruffians':
Bye, bye... I could say this was fun... but I won�t.
Mvh Roland
Message from Russia to Austria in 'ruffians':
> Message from [email protected] as Austria to Russia in
'ruffians':
>
> Cal -- I can't believe it! Christian moved! ACH! Well, at least we
> finally have taken Cyrille out of it. No matter what he disbands, and I
am
> guessing A Armenia, we can now take him down. My guess is he will either
> retreat to the Tyhr. sea, and try to help Christian, or the Emed and try
to
> hold us off longer.
I'd hate to try and guess what he's going to retreat as it will depend on
his level of apathy at the time. My guess would be the fleet retreating
from Ion (F Eas?), but A Arm is a possibility. He seems as mad at you as he
is at me.
> The proof of Pauls good intentions will be in his builds, of course. Two
> armies and you and I have a whole PASSEL of trouble on our hands, as
> Christian is in the Med now, and will be hell to kick out.
I think Paul is with us, but he sure faces a tactical nightmare trying to
hold what he has. I think we should try to support him as much as possible
or he will probably be "turnable" by Christian.
> Just a look ahead, but if Cyrile does retreat to Emed, I will probably
need
> to rotate a fleet into bulgaria, so we should think about how to make that
> work for us.
I agree. Might be easier to swap Serbia and Bulgaria instead of Greece and
Bul.
> Have a good weekend, let me know what you're thinking!
I was thinking about asking for TWO of the centres in Turkey just to
solidify my position, but with St Pete's gone, I may not have a whole lot to
do after Cyrille goes down. In fact, any builds I do get will have a hard
time finding their way to any sort of frontline. I still want one of
Cyrille's centres for the sheer principle of it though, but you can use the
other two more than I can.
Other than that, I'm going to save my serious analysis until after the
builds/retreats.
Cal
Message from Germany to Austria and Russia in 'ruffians':
>
> Message from [email protected] as Austria to Germany in 'ruffians':
>
> Paul,
>
> Well, that went quite well. Christian can't be happy about two new fleets
> in his waters, even if he is in the Gulf of Lyon. I will be fairly busy
> this weekend, but lets plan some stuff on monday, ok?
> No problem waiting until Mon. I will build two fleets, of course! I was
> rather surprised that Christian didn't go for Berlin, to prevent that second
> fleet build. It would have been worth it to him to have one of my home dots
> in his hands (however briefly!).
The English F Gol can support his F Por-Spa this Spring, as will his F Mao.
In the Fall, he can then cut my support for Bre (in Gas). Perhaps I should risk
moving A Gas-Par this Spring (Christian should expect Gas-S-Bre, eh?).
I plan on moving F Ber-Bal supported by F Kie, while F Hel goes to Hol with
Belgium's support. Can your A Ruhr please support my A Bel?
Paul
Message from Russia to Austria and Germany in
'ruffians':
> Message from [email protected] as Germany to Austria and Russia in
'ruffians':
> > No problem waiting until Mon. I will build two fleets, of course!
I was
> > rather surprised that Christian didn't go for Berlin, to prevent that
second
> > fleet build. It would have been worth it to him to have one of my home
dots
> > in his hands (however briefly!).
A mistake that I hope will cost him... d;-})
Just wanted to get my 2 cents (CDN) in here.
I think we have at least three things that are priorities here; first we
have to make sure that Paul loses as little as possible to Christian.
You're pretty spread out, Paul, and will have to win a couple of guessing
games to beat England. Priority #1, I think, is for Chris and I to tilt the
odds as much in your favour as possible.
Priority #2 is for me to get St Pete's back. I know that this isn't the
first thing Germany needs to deal with, but until I can get some breathing
space in the north, my units will have nothing to. Now I'm not the type to
strike at an ally just because there are no other targets, but I think our
little triumvirate can utilize my forces better.
Priority #3 is to make sure that Christian can't sweep through the Med.
This is Chris' problem. Obviously, our ability to stop this will depend on
how fast Turkey goes down, so we have to make this happen quick. Cyrille's
removal will give us a good idea of how fast we can sew up the bottom corner
of the board.
Okay, so what have I missed? Anyone want to re-order the priorities or
suggest new ones?
Cal
Back online after screwing with this computer, medically fit as a figgle and
rarin' to go!
Message from Germany to Austria and Russia in 'ruffians':
>
> Message from [email protected] as Russia to Austria and Germany in
> 'ruffians':
>
>
> I think we have at least three things that are priorities here; first we
> have to make sure that Paul loses as little as possible to Christian.
> You're pretty spread out, Paul, and will have to win a couple of guessing
> games to beat England. Priority #1, I think, is for Chris and I to tilt the
> odds as much in your favour as possible.
Well, if Chris' A Ruhr can support my A Bel, the Low Countries will be covered.
If he can move A Ven-Pie, Mar need never lack for support.
My job is to risk moving A Gas-Par this season, so that future supports for
Bre
can't be cut by an English F Spa. True, this will not be a problem if England
puts
F Por in Spa(sc), as he tried to do last season. Then I could just keep A Gas
where
it is, and keep it supporting A Bre.
My biggest lament is that both armies Bel and Bre are useless, except for
their
roles on "garrison duty."
>
>
> Priority #2 is for me to get St Pete's back. I know that this isn't the
> first thing Germany needs to deal with, but until I can get some breathing
> space in the north, my units will have nothing to. Now I'm not the type to
> strike at an ally just because there are no other targets, but I think our
> little triumvirate can utilize my forces better.
Well, I want to start this Spring by having F Kie-S-F Ber-Bal. Perhaps from
there
we could try a convoy of Russian A Lvn-Swe (Den supporting)? Get an army in
Swe, and Fin is as good as cut; StP can be reclaimed and Nwy put under pressure!
>
>
> Priority #3 is to make sure that Christian can't sweep through the Med.
> This is Chris' problem. Obviously, our ability to stop this will depend on
> how fast Turkey goes down, so we have to make this happen quick. Cyrille's
> removal will give us a good idea of how fast we can sew up the bottom corner
> of the board.
This is where Christian's tardiness in rounding the Horn of Gibraltar comes into
play as an advantage for us! Austria has time this Spring '09 to move F Nap-Tyn
with support from Ion. Along with the French fleet already in Tun, that gives
us
quite an advantage for holding the Med.
If England elects to dither around with attacks on Bre, he may not enter
the Wms
for quite some time to come! I don't see this as a burning threat to the
alliance,
while Turkey is being quickly dispatched in the East.
Paul
>
>
>
Message from Germany to Austria and Russia in 'ruffians':
Hi Guys:
In my last note, I was grousing about wasting units on garrison
duty. Obviously,
they can be put to better use if they are annihilated in a Spring turn,
and rebuilt as fleets thereafter.
We have to wait to see England's removal (I predict that he'll yank
F Nwy), but
how about this:
Chris, your A Ruhr bounces my A Bel over Hol. I order A Mun-Bur and F
Hel-
Nth. If England tries F Nth-Bel supported by Eng, he gets Bel but I
move into Nth.
My A Bel retreats otb, and I walk into Edi to compensate for the
temporary loss of
Bel. I build another fleet.
Heck, I could pull the same stunt afterward with A Bre (if
Christian was still so
cooperative)!
Paul
Broadcast message from Germany in 'ruffians':
C'mon Cyrilles, get those retreats in and lets get on with it!
Broadcast message from Turkey in 'ruffians':
Sorry guys, I forgot the F Ion. Does someone know a friend who wants to
replace me, like I replace Chetan, as it's quite more long than I first
expected?
Broadcast message from Turkey in 'ruffians':
>Broadcast message from [email protected] as Turkey in 'ruffians':
>
>Sorry guys, I forgot the F Ion. Does someone know a friend who wants to
>replace me, like I replace Chetan, as it's quite more long than I >first
>expected?
Hey again, looking at my mail, it can be see as a liitle bit disapointed.
The fact is that I move to Munich (Germany) tomorrow, to work 3 months at
Eurocopter Deutschland. I ask them for an email access, but don't know when
I'll got it, and it will probably be less available for games than my home's
email. That's the main reason of my ask. Congratulations anyway to the
winner(s) of this game.
Cyrille.
Adjustments
Broadcast message from Master in 'ruffians':
Will look into the idea of getting a new Turkey. Anybody got a good
suggestion? No automatic allies, please.
Rick
Message from Germany to Austria and Russia in 'ruffians':
Guys:
I forgot that England gained StP, so he had no removal due this
season. So now if Christian moved F Nth-Bel supported by F Eng, we
could anticipate that he would also order F Nwy-Nth.
So forget fancy manouvers to get my A Bel annihilated just yet....
Chris, let's have your A Ruhr support A Bel, and let's concentrate on
maybe getting my A Bre
annihilated instead...?
In Spring--I move A Mun-Bur and Austria moves A Ven-Pie. A
Gas-S-A Bre.
In the Fall--if England has moved F Por-Spa(nc), with intent to cut my A
Gas' support for Bre: I order A Gas-S-A Mar-Spa, Chris orders A Pie-S-A
Bur-Mar.
If Bre is dislodged, it is the one that retreats otb to be rebuilt as a
fleet.
Hey--simple, right?
Paul
Broadcast message from Germany in 'ruffians':
Sorry to have sounded a little crabby there, Cyrilles. Best of luck on
your move to
Munich; have a Weissbier for breakfast and toast all of us!
Paul
Broadcast message from Russia in 'ruffians':
>Broadcast message from [email protected] as Master in 'ruffians':
>
>Will look into the idea of getting a new Turkey. Anybody got a good
>suggestion? No automatic allies, please.
>
>Rick
How about one of the myriad observers? At least they're familiar with the
game. I just ask that it NOT be Jim-Bob with whom I've shared a few game
insights (no offense intended, Jim... <G>).
Cal White
Broadcast message from Germany in 'ruffians':
>
> Broadcast message from [email protected] as Russia in 'ruffians':
>
> >Broadcast message from [email protected] as Master in 'ruffians':
> >
> >Will look into the idea of getting a new Turkey. Anybody got a good
> >suggestion? No automatic allies, please.
> >
> >Rick
>
> How about one of the myriad observers? At least they're familiar with the
> game. I just ask that it NOT be Jim-Bob with whom I've shared a few game
> insights (no offense intended, Jim... <G>).
>
> Cal White
But...maybe it should be Jim-bob that we come to for a referral. He seems to
know
(of) everybody! Send us somebody with a martyr complex, Jim!
Paul
Broadcast message from Observer in 'ruffians':
I do have some ideas.... I certainly agree with Cal that I am
absolutely not the right person to take over. I have shared
insights personally with a number of you, not just him.
One problem is that with the Worldmasters Tournament going on
right now, many of the players in that might not want to also
get involved here.
My first suggestion, though, is that we find a Frenchman to
play Turkey. Does anyone have the results for the large
French Tournament held last weekend? We could invite the
winner or someone from the top five or ten who has a strong
record.
Mark Fassio is another idea (though he likely would say no)
since he is the best player I know who is not in Worldmasters
and is STILL smarting over his performance in another recent
game in this series.
A third idea which I like a great deal IS to ask an observer
of this game who is NOT me to take over. Are there any
observers here who qualify and are interested?
If I think of another idea, I will let you know.
Jim
>
> Broadcast message from [email protected] as Germany in 'ruffians':
>
>
> >
> > Broadcast message from [email protected] as Russia in 'ruffians':
> >
> > >Broadcast message from [email protected] as Master in 'ruffians':
> > >
> > >Will look into the idea of getting a new Turkey. Anybody got a good
> > >suggestion? No automatic allies, please.
> > >
> > >Rick
> >
> > How about one of the myriad observers? At least they're familiar with the
> > game. I just ask that it NOT be Jim-Bob with whom I've shared a few game
> > insights (no offense intended, Jim... <G>).
> >
> > Cal White
>
> But...maybe it should be Jim-bob that we come to for a referral. He seems to
> know
> (of) everybody! Send us somebody with a martyr complex, Jim!
>
> Paul
>
Broadcast message from Master in 'ruffians':
I'll invite Mike Mehaffey, the winner of game M9936 in the big
tournament. His game just finished today, the 21-SC win surely
qualifies him as a person to be respected, and now he's got a few
months to wait before Toby Harris and the rest of the qualifiers are
ready for round 2. Should be perfect, right?
Rick
Broadcast message from Germany in 'ruffians':
>
> Broadcast message from [email protected] as Master in 'ruffians':
>
> I'll invite Mike Mehaffey, the winner of game M9936 in the big
> tournament. His game just finished today, the 21-SC win surely
> qualifies him as a person to be respected, and now he's got a few
> months to wait before Toby Harris and the rest of the qualifiers are
> ready for round 2. Should be perfect, right?
>
> Rick
Sounds perfect to me, and timely too! He should be finished here in plenty of
time
to be ready for round 2!
(21 centers by 1907. It took me 'til 1918 to get that many.) --Paul
Broadcast message from Russia in 'ruffians':
> Broadcast message from [email protected] as Master in
'ruffians':
>
>
> I'll invite Mike Mehaffey, the winner of game M9936 in the big
> tournament. His game just finished today, the 21-SC win surely
> qualifies him as a person to be respected, and now he's got a few
> months to wait before Toby Harris and the rest of the qualifiers are
> ready for round 2. Should be perfect, right?
Coupla weeks oughta do it... <g>
Cal
Broadcast message from Austria in 'ruffians':
As to the replacement player, I was thinking Stephane Degrement has made
some nice showings in his games lately. But whomever! You set em up, We'll
cut em down!
Chris
Message from Austria to Russia and Germany in
'ruffians':
Sirs,
I have been a tad quiet of late, for life reasons -- I have a baby on the
way, and I am doing three performance numbers for our holiday show Friday.
So, lots of family stuff and lots of Rehearsals, plus the WorldMasters game
is taking what little time I can put to Dip.
I am listening to what you are saying, and I will chime in once we have our
new Victim, excuse me, Turkey.
Chris
Message from Russia to Austria and Germany in
'ruffians':
> Message from [email protected] as Austria to Russia and Germany
in
> 'ruffians':
>
>
> Sirs,
No need to be formal, we'll all friends here, right? <G>
> I have been a tad quiet of late, for life reasons -- I have a baby on the
> way, and I am doing three performance numbers for our holiday show Friday.
> So, lots of family stuff and lots of Rehearsals, plus the WorldMasters
game
> is taking what little time I can put to Dip.
No problem. Congrats on the young'n!
> I am listening to what you are saying, and I will chime in once we have
our
> new Victim, excuse me, Turkey.
I take it that we're agreed? No matter who takes over, we need to remove a
potential thorn from our rear echelons?
Cal
Broadcast message from Observer in 'ruffians':
>
> Broadcast message from [email protected] as Master in 'ruffians':
>
> Hmm...a French player would be a good idea, as would Fassio. It's
> just that I feel the timing would be perfect to get Mike.
> Rick
>
I think you should start with Mike as you suggested. It will allow
him to "sharpen" his skills in the interim!
After that, I suggest that you and I talk more privately about other
ideas if you need them.
Jim
Message from Germany to Austria and Russia in 'ruffians':
> >
> >
> > Sirs,
>
> No need to be formal, we'll all friends here, right? <G>
Well, if he insists on the "Sir" Cal, I'll be Galahad. You can be Lancelot.
>
>
> > I have been a tad quiet of late, for life reasons -- I have a baby on the
> > way, and I am doing three performance numbers for our holiday show Friday.
> > So, lots of family stuff and lots of Rehearsals, plus the WorldMasters
> game
> > is taking what little time I can put to Dip.
>
> No problem. Congrats on the young'n!
>
> > I am listening to what you are saying, and I will chime in once we have
> our
> > new Victim, excuse me, Turkey.
>
> I take it that we're agreed? No matter who takes over, we need to remove a
> potential thorn from our rear echelons?
>
> Cal
Paul here. Chris, my congratulations also on your new family member!
Yes, the Sultan cannot remain lurking behind our collective backs with a
large knife clenched in his hand.
I think that I have begun to work out the problem of my profusion of
"garrison"
armies (see past notes), and how to convert them into fleets without losing any
dots
to England.
Broadcast message from Germany in 'ruffians':
Greetings, oh mighty new Sultan! It would appear that your predecessor
has gotten
you into a fine mess, possibly beyond hope of cleanup? Well, it all
comes out in the wash....
The Chancellor
Broadcast message from Master in 'ruffians':
Hi Mike,
Welcome to the game. You've got a rough task ahead of you, as
the Turk is down to the three Asia Minor SCs.
Order submission is pretty simple - the judge recognizes
almost any move format you would think of, but if you ever write a
convoy order, you must specify the route taken, like
A yor - Nth - Bel
Messages are sent by the "press" command, as in
"press to A"
You can sent press to multiple recipients by combining letters, like
"press to GRE"
If you want to talk to everybody at once, like this, the command is
"broadcast"
Right now the deadline for the adjustment phase is Wednesday.
To make an adjustment, you use a command
disband force
as in
disband f nth
or
build a vie
for example.
If you want the Judge to wait until the deadline before processing,
you need to set your WAIT flag by
SET WAIT
you can remove this by
SET NOWAIT
Unlike most GMs, the Judge will always process almost immediately once
all the orders are in.
Hmm...anything I've forgotten?
Welcome to the game again. I'm sure you'll get some very nice letters
from all the friendly people playing here.
Rick
Message from Turkey to Germany in 'ruffians':
Dear chancellor,
what a godawful mess the humble ottoman peoples find themselves in. After i
get the blood cleaned up outta my new office, the last sultan met with a
merciful fate (a little gory though), i am gonna be on the horn double time
to try to work out some kinda deal for survival and maybe prosperity.
It looks like u have austrian problems of your own. With your rebound of 2
sc's this year, they will add much needed resources to your arsenal.
Is there any way the ottomans may assist the germans. we may have had some
setbacks, but moral is high with the new leadership. Any long faces in the
corp will be dealt with mercifully also.
Sultan
Broadcast message from Turkey in 'ruffians':
Dear powers,
I am open for business. I have high hope the last Sultan has not caused any
grudges that cannot be forgiven. He met with a merciful fate. I am in the
process of mopping out my new office now. I will be contact all of the
leaders around Europe TODAY and would enjoy a prompt response, although I
know u r all busy leaders with your own problems and agendas.
Sultan MiKaL LXVI
Dear players and gm,
thanks for the opportunity to "run with the big dogs". I am most humbled by
the opportunity.
Mike Mehaffey "meef"
Message from Germany to Turkey in 'ruffians':
> Message from [email protected] as Turkey to Germany in 'ruffians':
> Hi Mike!
>
> what a godawful mess the humble ottoman peoples find themselves in. After i
> get the blood cleaned up outta my new office, the last sultan met with a
> merciful fate (a little gory though), i am gonna be on the horn double time
> to try to work out some kinda deal for survival and maybe prosperity.
We are sure that the old Sultan was dispatched to Allah....
>
>
> It looks like u have austrian problems of your own. With your rebound of 2
> sc's this year, they will add much needed resources to your arsenal.
The new fleets will take care of England, yes, but I'll have to talk my way out
of the
Austrian mess!
>
>
> Is there any way the ottomans may assist the germans. we may have had some
> setbacks, but moral is high with the new leadership. Any long faces in the
> corp will be dealt with mercifully also.
Most prospects of G/T cooperation vs. A faded with the removal of Turkey's A
Gal; not your fault, but now your shortcoming. Keep R/A busy if you can!
Paul
>
>
> Sultan
Message from Turkey to England in 'ruffians':
Dean King of England,
I see we have a common foe in Russia. Russia seems to have made it his
business to make life hard for the ottomans. I would MOST enjoy a
cooperative effort in the east. How may the ottomans assist the English?
MiKaL
Message from Turkey to Italy in 'ruffians':
Dear Leader of Italy,
Sorry to see u go. Hopefully we can meet on the field later.
MiKaL
Message from Turkey to Russia in 'ruffians':
Dear Czar,
I see u have trouble in the north with the English. It will be difficult to
maintain two fronts in 1909 with a 5 sc Russia. What kind of a deal can
Turkey and Russia work out while there is still hope for both of us to
prosper? I believe it is a terrible waste of resource if we continue our
spat. I hope u will not hold anything against myself for the foolishness of
the last 2 sultans.
Thoughts?
MiKaL
Message from Russia to Austria and Germany in
'ruffians':
Hi guys!
Just want to confirm that the plan is to take the new Turk down regardless
of the fact that Cyrille is gone? IE nobody knows the new guy and thinks he
might fit in? I hope not as I'm still of the opinion that we need to
eliminate him to ensure the security of our collective backsides.
Later,
Cal
Message from Turkey to Austria in 'ruffians':
Dean Archduke,
I see u are faring well and the potential to fare better. I would like to
assist to in your prosperity. U have fronts to the north, west, south and
the potential for one in the east. This makes it difficult to grow. I
would like to propose the following:
A demilitarization of your southern front.
opening of a new front in the east with turkish support.
The reasoning behind this is:
Russia is in for a bad time with the advent of the English in stp.
Russia is exposed to u now.
With Turkey limiting herself to Russian Territory, it will make for a solid
southern front against norther aggression.
Germany and England are already in a scuffle, thus divided; Italy and France
are out, that makes for a winning team. Unity wins diplomacy games!!!
A/T will be much better for the Austrian success that A/R of the following:
1. Immediate gains by Austia at Russian expense.
2. Ablility for Austria to focus her resources North and West with a
dedicated servant covering your south and east. Your fleet can be sent west
with great effectiveness, while your armies moving north has great potential
for growth.
If Austria is willing to consider to such a concept, Turkey is willing to
make serve in any way possible.
MiKaL
Message from Russia to Turkey in 'ruffians':
> Message from [email protected] as Turkey to Russia in 'ruffians':
> Dear Czar,
> I see u have trouble in the north with the English. It will be difficult
to
> maintain two fronts in 1909 with a 5 sc Russia. What kind of a deal can
> Turkey and Russia work out while there is still hope for both of us to
> prosper? I believe it is a terrible waste of resource if we continue our
> spat. I hope u will not hold anything against myself for the foolishness
of
> the last 2 sultans.
>
> Thoughts?
Hi Mike! Thanks for taking over Cyrille's old position. Frankly, he didn't
do much with it other than antagonize everyone around him. You can be
assured that I won't hold anything he did against you.
Unfortunately though, that doesn't mean I think we're going to be able to
work together. I could lie to you and say, "Hey, let's do it!" in the hopes
of throwing you off tactics-wise, but that's not my style. Anyway, I'm far
too vulnerable to a stab by Austria to risk attacking him and I have to get
another centre from SOMEWHERE, so it looks like it's going to have to be you
(if I can manage it).
Who knows though? Austria MAY stab me and I'll need to come crawling to you
for help. At least then, you'll know I started off by being honest with
you. That may provide the basis for a future relationship. Keep in touch
and good luck.
Thanks again or taking over the position!
Cal White
Russia
Message from Turkey to Russia in 'ruffians':
Dear Russia,
Thanks for your honest reply. If it turns to poops 4 u, my door is always
open for u.
MiKaL
Broadcast message from Austria in 'ruffians':
Welcome to our new Turk! All the powers of Europe are looking forward to
hearing the thoughts of a new administration.
Well, all the powers of Europe excepting Italy, of course . . .
;)
The ArchPope
Message from Austria to Russia and Germany in
'ruffians':
Gents,
I just want to chime in and say, Yes, cal, I am do believe the thing to do
is to take Turkey down posthaste, regardless of his willingness to help me
take Russian centers, or his to help you take Austrian ones!
Lets see his disbands, and plan specificly what we can do, ok?
Chris
Message from Austria to Turkey in 'ruffians':
MiKal,
Well, this is a fine mess! Here I have gone and signed in blood an
agreement to finish off Turkey no matter What, and you come along with this
proposal.
Its a good thing I didn't use my own blood! ;)
If I am not mistaken, we are awaiting a disband from you? Here are my
thoughts:
I would love to turn some tables against the russian -- he has messed with
me a number of times in this game, and only lately have we worked together.
You are quite right that he has big problems coming his way in any case,
with england. So, I am inclined to say, yah, sure, lets get to work. I
can't afford to let England get any bigger!
The move on russia will have to come in the fall for maximum effectiveness.
Also, you are a little fleet heavy for my liking right now -- would you
disband F Emed as a show of good faith?
Oh, and I will be disavowing any intention of working with you -- but come
the fall, we can strike!
How does that sound?
Chris
Message from Turkey to Austria in 'ruffians':
Dear Archpope,
I am MOST pleased to hear your MOST generous offer. My fleet in emed is
worthless to me. It is disbanded per your request. Please advise your
servant how he may be of more assistance.
MiKaL
Message from Russia to Austria and Germany in
'ruffians':
> Message from [email protected] as Austria to Russia and Germany
in
> 'ruffians':
>
> I just want to chime in and say, Yes, cal, I am do believe the thing to do
> is to take Turkey down posthaste, regardless of his willingness to help me
> take Russian centers, or his to help you take Austrian ones!
>
> Lets see his disbands, and plan specificly what we can do, ok?
Sounds good to me.
Cal