Thanks for the game.
Dave Kleiman
My only doubt on how to play this was whether I should try to favour one of Russia, Turkey, or Egypt. With Egypt relentlessly hammering away at me, I confess that I was tempted to throw everything I had on the Eastern front, thereby favouring the Russian, who was coming from the North and who had expressed at least some tentative support for one of my units.
But none of this mattered in the end. Congratulations to the victors!
Anton Muscatelli - Spain (sub)
I was a bit frustrated that Egypt kept using the EMed instead of moving over a little bit. It hampered my development, but I endured.
The war was pretty easy up until I hit Russia. Russia made one mistake early on that allowed me to advance much further than I should have been allowed to do. But I returned the favor and got pushed right back, and worse. The Ukraine is a strange battle field to fight in. I needed to get into Germany or have Egypt stop that stalemate line so I could make the advances I wanted to. It never happened, too difficult to coordinate in a no press game.
I asked for the first draw, don't know why it didn't go through at that time. But I felt that Egypt was trying for more and I started bouncing my men and bumping into him indicating I wanted his Fleet in the EMed to get away from my territory.
The message never got through, and my patience had finally worn thin, and I hit Egypt, trying to convince him that a draw was at hand. I don't know if that was the case or not, but that's who I thought was holding it up. Since Russia was bottled up and only Egypt was making gains at that time.
After I took Egypt's homeland I asked for another draw, but it failed again. But finally I think it became obvious to us all that it was indeed a draw.
I may have forgotten to put my draw in a few times, or maybe someone was hoping another power would go abandoned.
I enjoyed the game very much. I would like to thank Egypt for his excellent cooperation throughout the game. With out it I don't think either of us would have been contenders. I would also like to thank Russia for a game well play. You did great!
Thanks Vince for hosting the game, and keeping up with it. I appreciate your dedication and would be willing to help you out anytime.
Joe Carl (Turkey)
Master: Vincent Mous [email protected]
Britain: Chet Melted
from F1995M: Shlomi Yaakobovich [email protected]
from S1998M: Mike Steeves [email protected]
from F1998B: Nuno Garoupa [email protected]
from S2005R: Lisa Shea [email protected]
Egypt: Craig Thomson [email protected]
from F2011B: Bill Stein [email protected]
from S2012R: Craig Thomson [email protected]
from S2019M: Eric Moore [email protected]
France: Michael Artz [email protected]
Germany: Roberto Sandri [email protected]
from F1998B: Oren Phipps [email protected]
Italy: Tom-Olav Johansen [email protected]
from F1995M: Paul Selby [email protected]
from S1996M: Dan Weinberg
[email protected],[email protected]
from F1998R: Dr. Brian M. Burkhart [email protected]
Poland: Mark Kennedy [email protected]
Russia: Steven Randall [email protected]
from S2009M: Dean Gordon [email protected]
Spain: Doug Gray [email protected]
from F2006M: Anton Muscatelli [email protected]
Turkey: Joseph W. Carl Jr [email protected]
Ukraine: Greg Rogers [email protected]
from F2001R: Jeff Behan [email protected]
Game parameters are/were as follows:
Move clock 1410 min 12.00 next 23.00 grace 47.00 delay 0.50 days
-mTWTF-
Retreat clock -1 min 0.00 next 23.00 grace 47.00 delay 0.50 days
-mTWTF-
Adjust clock -1 min 0.00 next 23.00 grace 47.00 delay 0.50 days
-mTWTF-
Access: Any-site, Level: Any, Moderated, Dedication: -350.
Variant: Modern, Gunboat.
Flags: NMR, NoProxy, NoDIAS.
Press: None (except to Master).
Winning Centers: 33.
Index: 137
Judge: USEF.
Game Started: Fri Dec 22 07:40:29 1995
Draw declared: Tue Aug 27 22:31:32 1996
The game was declared a draw between Egypt, Turkey and Russia.
Historical Supply Center Summary
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Mor Nap Mil Cro Gre Ist Ank Isr Ale Lib Irn Kha Kie Rum Aus Kra Gda Bie
Year Tun Rom Ven Ser Bul Izm Ada Cai Asw Sau Geo Sev Ode Hun Cze War Lit Mos
1994 . . I I I I . . . . T T T T . E E E . . . . U U U U . . . . P P P . . R
1995 . . I I I I I U . T T T T T E E E E E . . . U U P U U . G . P P P P R R
1996 S E I I I I I I T T T T T T E E E E E E T U U U U U U U G G P P R P P R
1997 S E I I I I I I T T T T T T E E E E E E T T U U U U U U I G P P R R R R
1998 S E E I I I I I T T T T T T E E E E E E T U R U U U U U I P P R R R R R
1999 S E E I I I I I T T T T T T E E E E E E T U R U R T U G I P P R R R R R
2000 S E E E I E I I T T T T T T E E E E E E T T R U R R T G I I R R R R R R
2001 S E E E I E I T T T T T T T E E E E E E T T R R R R T G I I R R R R R R
2002 S E E E E E T T T T T T T T E E E E E E T T R T R R R G E R R R R R R R
2003 E E E E E E T T T T T T T T E E E E E E T T R T R R T R E R R R R R R R
2004 E E E E E E T T T T T T T T E E E E E E T T R T R R T R E R R R R R R R
2005 S E E E E E T T T T T T T T E E E E E E T T R T R R T T E R R R R R R R
2006 S E E E E E T T T T T T T T E E E E E E T T R R T T T T E R R R R R R R
2007 S E E E E E T T T T T T T T E E E E E E T T R T R T T T E R R R R R R R
2008 E E E E E E T T T T T T T T E E E E E E T T R T T T T T E R R R R R R R
2009 E E E E E E T T T T T T T T E E E E E E T T R T R T T T E R R R R R R R
2010 E E E E E E T T T T T T T T E E E E E E T T R T T T T T E R R R R R R R
2011 E E E E E E T T T T T T T T E E E E E E T T T T T T T T E R R R R R R R
2012 E E E E E E T T T T T T T T E E E E E E T T T T T T T T E R R R R R R R
2013 E E E E E E T T T T T T T T E E E E E E T T T T T T T T E T R R R R R R
2014 E E E E E E T T T T T T T T E E E E E E T T T T T T T T E T R R R R R R
2015 E E E E E E T T T T T T T T E E E E E E T T T T T T T T E T R R R R R R
2016 E E E E E E T T T T T T T T E E E E E E T T T T T T T T E T R R R R T R
2017 E E E E E E T T T T T T T T E E E E E E T T T T T T T T E T R R R R T R
2018 E E E E E E T T T T T T T T E T E E E E T T T T T T T T E R R R R R R R
2019 E E E E E E T T T T T T T T E E E E E T T T T T T T T T E R R R R R R T
2020 E E E E E E T T T T T T T T T T E E E T T T T T T T T T E R R R R R R R
2021 E E E E E E T T T T T T T T T T T T E T T T T T T T T T E R R R R R R R
2022 E E E E E E T T T T T T T T T T T T E T T T R T T T T T T R R R R R R R
Historical Supply Center Summary (cont)
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Gor Stp Nor Swe Ber Mun Bel Mon Lyo Bor Liv Lon Sve Mad
Year Ros Mur Den Ham Fra Hol Swi Mar Par Ire Edi Gib Bar Por
1994 R R R R . . . G G G G . . . . F F F F . B B B B S S S .
1995 R U R R R G . G G G G G F F F F F F F . B B B S S S S S
1996 R U R R R G R G G G F G F F F F F F F B B B B S S S S S
1997 R U R R R B R F P F F G G G F F F F F B B B B S S S S S
1998 R U R R B B R F P F F B B F G F F F F B B B B S S S S S
1999 R T R R B B R B F F F B B F F F F F F B B B B S S S S S
2000 R T R R B R R F F F P B B F F F F F S B B B B S S S S S
2001 R T R R B B R F F F F B F F F F F F F B B B B S S S S S
2002 R T R R B B R F F F F F F F F F F F S B R B B S S S S S
2003 R T R R B B R F F F F F F F E F F F F F R R B S S S S S
2004 R T R R R B R F R F F F F F E F F F F F F R B S S S S S
2005 R T R R R R R F R F F F F F E F F F F F F R R S S S S S
2006 R T R R R R R F R F F R F E E E F F F F F R R S S S S S
2007 R T R R R R R F R F F F F E E E E E S R R R R S S S S S
2008 R T R R R R R F R F E F F E E E E E S R R R R S S S S S
2009 R T R R R R R R R F E F E E E E E E S R R R R S S S S S
2010 R T R R R R R R R R E R E E E E E E S R R R R E S S S S
2011 R T R R R R R R R E E R R E E E E E E R R R R E E E S S
2012 R T R R R R R R R R E R R E E E E E E R R R R E E E E E
2013 R T R R R R R R R R E R R E E E E E E R R R R E E E E E
2014 R T R R R R R R R R E R R E E E E E E R R R R E E E E E
2015 R T R R R R R R R R E R R E E E E E E R R R R E E E E E
2016 R T R R R R R R R R E R R E E E E E E R R R R E E E E E
2017 R T R R R R R R R R E R R E E E E E E R R R R E E E E E
2018 T T R R R R R R R R E R R E E E E E E R R R R E E E E E
2019 R T R R R R R R R R E R R E E E E E E R R R R E E E E E
2020 R T R R R R R R R R E R R E E E E E E R R R R E E E E E
2021 R T R R R R R R R R E R R E E E E E E R R R R E E E E E
2022 R T R R R R R R R R E R R E E E E E E R R R R E E E E E
History of Supply Center Counts
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Power 1994 '95 '96 '97 '98 '99 '00 '01 '02 '03 Player
Britain 4 \ Chet Melted
3 4 5 \ Shlomi Yaakobovich
8 \ Mike Steeves
9 7 7 5 3 Nuno Garoupa
Egypt 3 5 7 7 8 8 10 10 12 14 Craig Thomson
France 4 7 8 8 8 9 8 11* 11 12* Michael Artz
Germany 4 7 7 4 1 \ Roberto Sandri
1 1 1 1 Oren Phipps
Italy 4 \ Tom-Olav Johansen
5 \ Paul Selby
6 7 \ Dan Weinberg
6 6* 5 4 Dr. Brian M. Burkhart
Poland 3 5 4 3 3 2 1 Mark Kennedy
Russia 5 6 7 9 10 11 14* 14 16 17 Steven Randall
Spain 3 5 6 6 6 6 7 6 7 5 Doug Gray
Turkey 4 5 7 8 7 9 10 11 12 13 Joseph W. Carl Jr
Ukraine 4 6 8 7 7 3 1 \ Greg Rogers
Jeff Behan
Index: 14 30 42 44 47 51 58 64 74 83
Power 2004 '05 '06 '07 '08 '09 '10 '11 '12 '13 Player
Britain 2 \ Nuno Garoupa
Lisa Shea
Egypt 14 13 15 17 19 20 21 24 25 25 Craig Thomson
France 12* 12 9 5 4 2 Michael Artz
Russia 18 19 19 20 19 \ Steven Randall
21 22 21 22 21 Dean Gordon
Spain 5 6 \ Doug Gray
6 7 6 6 5 2 \ Anton Muscatelli
Turkey 13 14* 15 15 16 15 16 17 17 18 Joseph W. Carl Jr
Index: 86 90 92 98 103 110 120 131 139 139
Power 2014 '15 '16 '17 '18 '19 '20 '21 '22 Player
Egypt 25 25 25 25 24 \ Craig Thomson
24* 22 20* 19 Eric Moore
Russia 21 21 20 20 21* 21* 22 22 23 Dean Gordon
Turkey 18 18 19 19* 19 19 20 22 22 Joseph W. Carl Jr
Index: 139 139 138 138 137 137 136 136 137
* = 1 unused build.
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